Nikola Tesla and The Source

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Re: Nikola Tesla and The Source

Postby straylight » July 26th, 2010, 4:18 am

Thanks for this really coherent systematic interpretation. It really makes interesting reading.

My question would be, why then is it not symmetrical ? If both Neo and the machines are connected to the same source, surely the machines have the same ability to send energy to Neo on his flight and cause him, Trinity and the Mjolnir to explode.
The machines can send information wirelessly, case in point the antenna sentinel receiving some sort of signal, after Neo's destruction of Smith in the matrix, followed by the peaceful swirling of sentinels in Zion. Why can't they send energy too, why can't they harness the source the way Neo does ?

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Re: Nikola Tesla and The Source

Postby Tutmona49 » July 26th, 2010, 6:42 am

But Neo hasn`t got antennas, does he?

So who says Neo is acting in the "the real physical world" as stopping the sentinels?

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Re: Nikola Tesla and The Source

Postby straylight » July 26th, 2010, 9:41 am

If I'm reading Foxdie right,
Neo uses a process of information transfer to reach the Source.
This process of information transfer is experiential. Neo experiences the Source
Reaching the Source for the machines is the end or death. They experience this death through sentient programs in the matrix.
What if the Source uses Neo (in that the intention is Neo's but it is applied through Neo's own body) as an experiential matrix for the machines and thus exposed they die. All the internal process of information has to do is set Neo with enough contiguity that he resembles a sentient program to them. Thats it. The end.
Neo can only process out these constructs at a certain rate. When the rate required exceeds the time needed, Neo can no longer "hold them back".
All this is still within the realm of information transfer rather than a discharge of heat. If potentials of adjacent atoms or cells can be manipulated to transfer information(like Locks for transporting barges) then it is possible that energy from an external source is not required nor expended externally.

Q.E.D No Hay Antenna

It may seem these feats of computation seem impossibly fast, but we are misled by our sense of time, which in turn is dictated by our sense of scale. When we imagine a linear cause-effect scenario, it unfolds in our brain at a much slower rate than in actuality.
Lights-out on this my territory.., hope I didn't go too off topic. Thanks again

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Re: Nikola Tesla and The Source

Postby FoXDie » July 31st, 2010, 6:47 pm

straylight wrote:Thanks for this really coherent systematic interpretation. It really makes interesting reading.

My question would be, why then is it not symmetrical ? If both Neo and the machines are connected to the same source, surely the machines have the same ability to send energy to Neo on his flight and cause him, Trinity and the Mjolnir to explode.
The machines can send information wirelessly, case in point the antenna sentinel receiving some sort of signal, after Neo's destruction of Smith in the matrix, followed by the peaceful swirling of sentinels in Zion. Why can't they send energy too, why can't they harness the source the way Neo does ?

Thanks.


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However, I also think that because the Logos is not a part of the machine network, they can't command it as Neo can command machines connected to that network. Neo is accessing the machine mainframe and hijacking their network packets, in contemporary terms.

I posit that the Source emanates not only information, data and instructions but the very energy that powers the vast machine empire. Before the second renaissance, the machines were powered by the sun. So when the sun was taken away, I doubt they would then rely on batteries and recharge stations. They required an energy source as ever-present (or moreso) as the sun - thus they create energy from man-kind in the Matrix with a form of fusion and then wirelessly broadcast that energy to the machines. As data packets are sent, so are "energy packets." Neo is hacking the network, though his connection to the source, to jumble information packets and/or energy packets, causing the machines to overload (in the case of the Sentinels) and cause a premature explosion (in the case of the bot-bombs).

In the same way the machines couldn't affect the Logos because it isn't on their network and doesn't use their energy source, Neo could not turn on the Logos himself when the electric clouds shorted it out. He just had faith that Trinity could restart it.
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